And that is where I differ with Mike. Rush. False prophets, false Christs and false teachers would arise and deceive manyif it were possible, even the very elect. Also known as Micheal Rush. But we laugh at those ideas today. This does not increase the price you'll pay for that item nor does it decrease the awesomeness of the item. Of course, I get all those things. I sort of get what you are saying, but to say it you seem to strawman the actual church position (as I understand it to be). Should they ignore the 5-7 years of hell and miraculous recovery they endured/obvserved trying to follow previous revelation that produced "good fruit", roll the dice, and basically tell the Lord, "I didn't learn a thing last time! At The Disco's frontman on being the only original member left", "Out to Win: Panic! And Im asking HIM to teach me how to do that but it cant just be bestowed on me. If they say he was talking about astral projection then he was and thats that. The lies will be exposed and the truth will spill out like water. $383,000 MULLICA TOWNSHIP As Rush said, at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies, there are no degrees because the learning never stops. Michael B. Abramson is a practicing attorney. Well I can say for those of us as lifers and close to retirement have all seen a culture change. Its what we all want. That is the only dominion that can bring about eternal life. As much as Mike Stroud was loved at that meeting and in the online community, there would be others who would hate him just as much. Rush is the author of A Remnant Shall Return, Daniel 11, and Revelation the Vision of John the Divine. Some of the garbage they sell slays me. Which leads into Jackson County Missouri and the New Jerusalem. Jesus responded: Take heed that no man deceive you. Utah Historical Quarterly. The superficial milk seeking, moralistic therapeutic diesism found in the minds of those like yourself have changed the way we teach the doctrines of the gospel over the course of my life and I am greatly disappointed by your ilk. When will they return? The purpose of the stories, in my opinion of course, is to show these men doing a duty which in many cases cost them their lives. I want to flag one because it relates to a recent post. I didnt get that from Mike Stroud. Bagley, Will. This to me is in direct opposition to living to truly love your neighbor and embodying Christ-like love in all our interactions with one another. . While it is true that we teach of visions and angelic ministrants and such we also teach of the adversarys counterfeits as well and the imperative of learning to discern between deception and Godly instruction. I still think that Mike Stroud may be in error on some of his teachings. Really enjoy reading your blog site! Michael and Amy began their career in the San Francisco Bay Area working for Ernst & Young, and started raising their family of six children. Mormon Stories. Michael B. That is what made Mike Stroud one of the most dangerous False teachers in the church. Despite his constantly bearing testimony of the brethren he read the B of M like Nibley did ie condemning the Gentiles and making the case ( which most agree with) that we LDS are the Gentiles discussed in the B of M. In his podcast on the definition of Gentiles he discusses 2 Nephi 28 and effectively says that when Nephi sees that they have ALL gone out of their way ( 2 Nephi 28;11) or Moromon 8;380 why have ye polluted the holy church of god he is talking about us in our day. Public Transport Seville Airport To City, Rush was the first LDS scholar to accurately decipher the prophetic writings of Ezra now known as Ezra's Eagle. 4. Now, the church excommunicates someone who teaches that these stories are to be applied to us, each of us, equals, loved equally? Pretty soon after that he taught his wife how to have visitations. BofM is true and thats good enough for to move forward. From One of Many Excommunicated by WELS. When I read about stuff like this and considering the alt-right elders quorum lesson I just sat throughrailing on the liberal media, pro-choicerers, and advocating shunning your out-of-the-close relativesand then you look at the research on millennials from Jana Reiss and what appears to me as the obvious needed direction moving towards more moderate/liberal views on these issues, it seems like some sort of schism is unavoidable. Judging a mans personal revelation to me is fruitless nonsense. Fear is the opposite of faith. It was just the two of us. Use the Information in this Book to Prepare for What Comes Next. I hope hes not going all Mike Stroud on us. And Bellamy did not answer my question. When youre old you can wear purple and think outside the big box occasionally, and when you do, sometimes wondrous things happen. Since this council, Ive seen abundant evidence of the existence of this fallen law. According to the Church, When someone obtains the Second Comforter, Jesus Christ will appear to him from time to time, will reveal the Father, and will teach him face to face (D&C 130:3). For Stroud, the Book of Mormon brings people closer to Christ and the heavenly hosts, literally. If this lady really had a Second Comforter experience, why does she have to confirm it through Mike Stroud? Fear of being deceived effectively stops you. Are in a same-gender marriage. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. This is the bottom slider area. Excommunication. Gifts come to me by the giver of a gift. About 20 minutes into it, he had an interesting take on D&C 45 and Isaiah 28 (the "covenant with death") prophecy. Any dominion I personally might exercise is a dominion of service as illustrated by Christs ministry and so eloquently by the washing of the feet. If the 144,000 really are a club that pat each other on the back for their superior knowledge while condemning us gentiles for our weaknesses, then they can have their club, I will stand with the man and woman who love me in my weaknesses and join with them to bear each others burdens as we seek to improve our ability to love one another as Christ and God have loved us. There was a nice girl in one of his classes who was popular, very spiritual and had a very kind heart. But havent as yet got much of it read. Wise teachers like Jesus would never tell us to be afraid because it would directly limit our ability to grow in faith and love. Welcome to my YouTube channel! Your email address will not be published. His original analysis has been studied by students of the scriptures inover 130 countries worldwide, and is included in his first book -, The Curious Case of My Technicolored Genenome, Revelation - The Vision of John the Divine, Chapter 19 - The Pre-mortal Legacy of the House of Israel, Dana Coverstone Dream - Think Ezra's Eagle, Sharyl Attkisson - Astroturf and the Manipulation of the Modern Narrative. Proposition 8 involvement was conservative. Were I to answer that question, I would simply be joining in the cacophony. Those who are truly learned in the things of God have learned to recognize such and if they condemn someones claims, claiming itself being a huge red flag, they do so with an understanding and recognition of what is absent to validate the claims. Instead they would take joy in the blessing of others and take equal joy in the blessing that God has given themselves. To be fair, Mike did put a disclaimer at the beginning and the end of the podcast in question that this technique may not be for everyone and should only be tried with discernment. Its interesting that the author claims to have felt a bad spirit every time they listened to a Mike Stroud podcast. Rush (Ezra's Eagle) and the FP Covid Statement by h_p Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:43 am Many of you might be familiar with this guy, he's the guy who's been quite prolific about the Ezra's Eagle prophecy. Ideas that we are now not even suppose to talk about . Thank you for this update on Mike Stroud. The plummet is a depth line to measure how deep the water is. I am much more impressed by the ignorant man who is filled with the love of God for the people around him, than the person who professes to know the secrets of Christ, and aspire to be worthy of the company of the former. My heart hurts for them. All you have to do just read what was actually said and the authors deception is right there. I also find it interesting that they are so condemning of teachers in the online community who they feel have inappropriately and without authority called themselves to teach. The lady said she knew it was the Lord. I do not know him at all, but I have learned a great deal from his teachings of the scriptures. Alma 12 clearly teaches to seek after knowledge, and to him who does not harden his heart, will be given the mysteries of God. This reminds me of the community of people who experience Near Death Experiences. michael.b.rush. Release date: Oct 30, 2010: Booking location: Leon County, FL: Booking location: I have a dear friend who started hearing voices and seeing people. Im a big fan of moderation and pluralism, but I continue to see a lot of talk about what the Church obviously should do. In a very few cases, the list below may include former adherents of other Latter Day Saint movement denominations who have ceased identifying as members of the Church, as well. I think it's way off with The Watchers and other "out there" interpretations. [Nope. I worked in the SL temple, and I loved it, but my time with the Lord is more precious to me than that ever was. I quite like Michael Rush. What would you people say to someone who, years ago, received very specific revelation on how to cure a vaccine injured child (think "Alma Smith" type revelation - if you don't know the Alma Smith story, look it up)? Not my place. The covenant with death is with Satan. In truth, I have learned that many actually DO tend to lust after spiritual experiences, precisely because their IS an hierarchy at least in our minds. Mike did tell this man that if he wanted to learn the mysteries of God, he should not be afraid of deception. Michael's relationship status is married. My reply started with a reminder that Abraham met God on a mountain, so did Moses, so did Jesus (mount of Transfiguration). For discussing the Church, Gospel of Jesus Christ, Mormonism, etc. If they testify to the reality of the spiritual world and that the gifts of the spirit may be enjoyed in this life they get the modern equivalent of being burned at the Stake. With this we can rid ourselves of all fear and ridicule of others and have confidence that we are taking the right path. Stroud also recommended asking for visitations from specific Book of Mormon individuals. We have information on 910-692-9945, including Michael B Rush's name, address, and background checks with criminal records. William Tompkins - Apollo Program - Interactions with Human ETs, Military Personel Address National Press Club Regarding UFO's Interacting With Our Nuclear Weapons, Robert O. Copyright LastDaysTimeline.comAll Rights Reserved. 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Thanks for this. It didnt end until some wiser and higher up authorities put a stop to it. It is simultaneously hilarious and tragic that an institution who makes such extraordinary (some would say literally unbelievable) claims about personal revelations, heavenly visitations, etc. Stroud told a family story about his grandparents in Payson, Utah. by ransomme August 20th, 2021, 11:58 am, Post Rush, author of: A Remnant Shall Return -Daniel 11 -REVELATION the Vision of John Divine I was so very sad to hear that Mike passed away. God showed up to her and told her to leave him and now she is part of some cult in southern Utah. We are all learning and doing the best we can given the circumstances of our life. I like Rush in the general sense and have found some some of his views even helpful, but I disagree with him on a number of particulars. They will range over the earth, visit distant friends, and, for aught we know, the planets, and accomplish great feats; do that which will enhance our happiness, increase to us every enjoyment of life, and prepare us for celestial glory; but when we wake in the morning, it is all gone from us; we have forgotten it.. This flies in the face of their favorite social media montras Follow the prophet! So apparently we should always follow the prophetexcept for them when a prophet says something they disagree with and then they can toss it outbut for the rest of us, we have to hold strict adherence. As you read the chapters in the Book of Mormon, identify beforehand the characters that you will be reading about. Michael Mansour Rush, 69. And now about their doc. Excommunicated Podcaster, Mike Stroud, has claimed in many of his podcasts and other "private settings" that he is obsessed with the idea of "A REMNANT" and he believes there are a select group of people that will be chosen to be part of this "remnant" apart from ,and ahead of, the main body of Saints. I think it is called The Church of the Firstborn. Includes Address(5) Phone(4) Email(1) See Results. Podcast 05: Spending Sacred Holy Time With The Lord Jesus Christ, the frequency and abundance of messages from heaven have increased exponentially, She testified of how real and true the concept of modern revelation from the Lord to His prophet really is., Mike Stroud Has Been Excommunicated Latter-day Commentary Last Days Signs of the Times, End-Times Visionary Julie Rowe Excommunicated Wheat & Tares, Jana Riess: Chad Daybells strange end times beliefs are not Mormon theology, says historian .U.S.A.-News. ], Mary Ann i generally agree with your analysis . Its only when a person overtly undermines the stewardship of The Church and the proper pattern of authority, that it seems people actually run into trouble. If you seek professional advice, please see a licensed professional with your respective government. Taking heed of deception is not being afraid of deception. Visions of Glory: One Man's Astonishing Account of the Last Days Nelsen, Transition Integrity Project - full document, Rich Higgins National Security Council Memo - Deep State, Article on the Pentagon and unidentified aerial phenomenon, Marco Rubio on off-world crafts in our top-secret air space. But if you take a higher altitude view, there are a number of changes that could be conservative by some definition. Michael B. Thank you, Kimberly. In June, she elaborated on the process of President Nelson writing impressions down on a yellow note pad and how she has been prompted at times to leave the room. I explore the assumption that these are things we are to strive for. Its like a room of mirrors, how can you choose which direction to go? Mike was not contradicting the Savior at all here. In my experience it seems the overarching need/message is one of moral superiority and a need to achieve or get a manifestation of some sort that ultimately seems to serve to prove ones elect-ness as if that were the purpose of life. Churchistrue, Mike Stroud is very positive about many of the recent changes, including the temple changes and at-home study program. DEHLIN, JOHN. I have found much goodness and that which is lovely and of good report and praiseworthy in this mans podcasts. I can assure you that Mikes Priesthood leaders and many people in his ward and Stake have had serious concerns about his teachings long before I ever wrote that letter. 1. I do spend 30-60-and more minutes every day in prayer. It was inappropriate for me to teach that that the Church of Latter-day Saints is Aaronic in nature and preparatory to the Melchizedek priesthood institution referred to in scripture as the Church of the Firstborn. They could share them with others without the concern of generating feelings of separation and comparison. by ransomme August 20th, 2021, 3:44 pm, Post What is told to your mind might be from God, might not be. 97. I was at the meeting where Mike told the guy to not be afraid of deceit. Michael B Rush Family Robin C Rush Lindsey M Rush Joe M Rush Patrick M Rush Patrick Rush Show all locations and family Age. On February 14th, podcaster Mike Stroud dropped a bombshell. The BYU honor code itself was the result of a conservative change, so changes to restore some of the status quo ante are hardly progressive. [59] Benji Schwimmer, the winner of the 2006 So You Think You Can Dance show. The grandparents shared a pie with some local American Indian friends, and they were later given a crude type of pie in return. In this one you seem eerily sympathetic to the fact that his new podcasts contain many occult ideas that he hid behind Book of Mormon scripture. Why? Michael's net worth hovers over $100,000 - $249,999 with a yearly income that's about $200 - 249,999. Michael served a mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Chile, Osorno - where he loved both the people and the breathtaking landscapes. If it were, it would be HIS love, not mine. Specifically: an institution who makes such extraordinary claims about personal revelations would then regulate such claims.. Rush had been residing in Dallas County, Texas . In his initial announcement, he stated that the Lord wanted the podcasts translated into Spanish. Michael B. Jordan stars in the movie based on Clancy's novel. I am really disappointed in this article. A neighbor gave me his podcasts, and as I listened to them I increasingly felt uncomfortable with his teachings; especially the Visions of Glory type stories of others that he shared. Send us comments about our Author Pages. Thats like at Christmas when your children tell you their wish list. The pages in that book after my daughter was murdered helped my heart to forgive and let go and for that I am forever grateful for his words he shared. After the excommunication was announced, those behind the Google doc and Mike Stroud Podcast Exposed Facebook page were blamed for the disciplinary action and received public backlash. Thanks for the write up. Your email address will not be published. The concept of personal revelation has been a source of strength and tension since the beginning of the Church. Michael B. Whitepages helps 19 people every second do reverse phone lookups , find people and get background checks , including public records , in order to make smarter, safer decisions. He is also an adviser with the National Diversity Coalition for Trump. I can see the bind that the church is in here and I am actually somewhat sympathetic to its position, but of course, its a case where the church has done this to itself. This whole exchange and the podcast, disciplinary activities, uproar, etc paints a vivid picture of a great and spacious building filled with laughing, sneering, finger pointing believers. Stroud said it almost feels like your being drawn upward. the FRUIT of a good tree is good fruit, a bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit. Still, this whole matter with Mike Stroud has been very disheartening. by FreedomJess August 19th, 2021, 11:10 pm, Post document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. His original analysis has been studied by students of the scriptures in over 130 countries worldwide, and is included in his first book - A Remnant Shall Return first published in 2015. This is the pattern of many who refuse to humble themselves when they ere. by Maroriginal1 August 23rd, 2021, 1:27 pm. Visit Author Central to update your books, profile picture, and biography. My first observation of their character is that despite their supposedly being such strong adherents to official church doctrine, they dont feel like any other rules apply to them. That broadens my understanding. This document was basically their attempt to establish that. They appointed themselves to do it. With Rodger Corser, Callan Mulvey, Nicole da Silva, Ashley Zukerman. Sandra Dawn Brimhall and Dawn Retta Brimhall. "When You Wish Upon A Star: The Musical Legacy of Utah Composer Leigh Harline. But its my understanding that he is appealing their ruling so well see how that goes. 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