He's bald, he has a potbelly, he has these pince-nez spectacles, he's chomping on a Virginian cigar, he was always smoking these Virginian cigars and he's wearing a fur coat. Thank you to Jim Shapiro, whose most recent book is called Contested Will. Let's begin with this story from our producer Pat Walters. And he goes home for a few days. He is a soldier. This has allowed the world to have 7 billion people. My name's Benjamin Walker and here are some RadioLab credits. We're going to meet her later. I think they have to be extreme in the extreme. TRANSCRIPTS We are working to provide transcripts for as much of our programming as we can over. And I- I killed her. We don't exactly know why. Radiolab is supported by Audible. The experiment requires that we continue. Go to audible.com/radiolab or text Radiolab to 500500 for a free 30-day trial and a few audiobook. And 91% of the men said yes. And he throws himself in one of the central issues facing Germany that at that time. He had an attack or something there. The same year that Adolf Eichmann goes on trial for Nazi war crimes. Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. Well, he started- he started fuming that his wife had- had dissed him. He would have each subject sit down at a table. Uh, she, uh, expressed disapproval about his, um, clothing choices. Even past when they were screaming in pain. Members of his extended family did. In Seattle today a man called the Green River killer-. And, like, it kind of, like, hurt his feelings. Although, clearly, on some level they know it isn't. You better check in on him sir. We're all great apes. Any idea what the hell he was intending? But over the entire ocean, there's a lot of gold dissolved into the sea. It's a pretty big thing to miss (laughs) isn't it? "I'm willing to help in a worthwhile experiment.". That afternoon, he gets in his car, goes home, he finds my mom on the deck, sits down next to her. So, I heard this one from this guy named David-. Because actually, he studied between 20 and 40 different variants of this same paradigm. Under extreme, extreme pressure at high temperature, and then he forces hydrogen into the tank. So basically, at 6 p.m. on April 22nd-. You know, this was like oil is today. You know [crosstalk 00:10:58]. By this point, David moved on to a new university and he's teaching an introductory psychology class. I dated her several times a year. So, you know, around this point, I just don't want to have anything to do with this guy. Take one. So, as we begin this episode of the Bad Show, check out The Blank Slate by Steven Pinkner, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. Of course nobody wants to be killing other people. It's a pretty (bleep) thing to miss, isn't it really? Shoots herself in the chest, and is found by her son. He's standing there on the front pushing the gas into the lungs of other human beings. And then, he just trails off. That is if you don't continue, we're going to have to discontinue the experiment. Hey, it's Fred Kaufman, I'm calling to read the credits; here we go. [inaudible 00:06:31], Well not horrified, it was I pretty stunned. Yes, and he did too. There's trench warfare. no one has ever said about a sex tape that I've ever you know. So, at a time when there are people all over our country eyeing other people all over the country and thinking, "She's bad. But even with all that gore and horribleness, there was often a moment that people waited for. They will invariably say something like, "They show that people obey orders." In fact, his chemist had given this particular pesticide a smell. He would change where the shocker and the shockee sat. We decided to shake things up at the show.bear with us. No. And Christensen, I dated her several times bef- three times- two times before. I left him, went home. And, you know, my view about human nature is that it affords infinite potential for lightness and dark. And even when they do say yes, even when they go along with the experiment, as you can see in the film. And they're saying, "Have you checked out Job? "Definitely yes.". I don't know that you could entirely call him bad, I might even tilt towards saying he's a little good, to be honest. If the experiment- if the experiment had to be successful, it had to be carried on.". in this episode we begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and . Then he left some space at the bottom for them to elaborate if they said yes. The fact that he kept on doing it over, and over, and over again was like, "Come on.". And my father wasn't buying it. I- I- I- well (laughs). Milgram staged the whole thing like it was some experiment about memory and punishment, but of course it wasn't about that. I think I call it [prince-nez 00:28:23], so I'm not sure. Gary said, "I needed to kill them," they go, "Why?" If the experiment had to be successful, it had to be carried on.". With my arm. Making him the most prolific serial killer in American history. He had an experimenter who wasn't a scientist, but was a member of the general public. And what happens is that you're- you're elbowing the nit- nitrogen apart from itself and then, forcing it to bond with a hydrogen in a new way. Now you're saying actually that you could read that, that very dark fact, as being actually evidence of something quite- quite noble. You know what's going to happen if she pisses you off. And they would circle yes or no. This episode was produced with help from Carter Hodge. Nitrogen is an essential part of amino acids and proteins. He was always smoking his Virginian cigars. She was actually, uh, sort of a genius herself. He recruited a bunch of subjects-. Meaning, any idea what was in his mind? Saying, "You know, the process that I used to make food? Is that nitrogen is [tryvalent 00:31:48]. And, um, in January of 1984, the Green River task force was formed. They will spare his son if he fesses up and- and tells them what they need to know. And it's moving at about one meter per second. Did members of Haber's family die in the concentration camp? He would say over and over again. But as the play goes on, you begin to think that maybe that's just another lie. So you're saying they were shocking these people because they thought it was worthwhile? What follows is this ongoing conversation between Job and his friends about why does this happen? But he is a, uh, a large, very strong man. And then he just trails off. Now, Haber was Jewish, but because he had served in World War I-. But what's clear is that he saw no reason to question what he had done and that infuriated Clara. Imagine how it feels to have an award-winning team by your side through the mortgage process. Terrestrials: A New Kids Show from Radiolab. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. The Bad Show.ogg download. Now what you need to understand about Alex Haslam is that he hates it when interviewers only want to talk about the baseline study. But what you're doing is for the good of Germany, and this is necessary in order to advance our noble cause.". It's like a downloadable from the internet instant defense for doing wrong, but if you look at Milgram's work closely. So in the Milgram case. And he says that's what people wanted. And this is necessary in order to advance our noble cause.". They wanted someone who was really thrillingly bad but, in the end, was redeemed a bit.". Do you think that more studies of this sort should be carried out?" So, basically at 6:00 pm at April 22nd. But 75% of the people who worked for him at the institute, they were Jewish. But if you put two experimenters in the room, and-. ", "Set deadly enmity between two friends make poor men's cattle break their necks, set fire on barns and haystacks in the night, and bid the owners quench, you quench with their tears. Right now get $50 towards select mattresses by visiting casper.com/radiolab and using Code Radiolab at checkout. It's a little bit more direct. Do you leave this experiment in a light mood or in a dark mood? Uh, it makes up four out of every five or so molecules that we breathe. You better check in on him, sir. That's correct. Shoots herself in the chest. Then a few months later, he started calling me trying to get back together, but I didn't want to. "It's okay to admit this, you need to admit this.". And everyone thought, "Well, we know the solution. I've been thinking about him for the better part of a year as you know. No motives. I invited him for dinner. And then, walks away from his child and his wife dead in the garden and says-. He won't answer me or nothing. How many of them went into that kind of detail? So, they sit down in the chair thinking, "Wow. We'll be right back. The guy yelling, of course, was an actor, and the shocks weren't real. Dan doesn't think so, but what's clear is that he saw no reason to question what he had done and that infuriated Clara. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. So, Sam what happened to this guy after World War I? And when nitrogen and hydrogen bond together, the thing you get-. Certainly friends of his did. Now what you need to understand about Alex Haslem is that he hates it when interviewers only want to talk about the baseline study. If you breathed it in, it sort of irritates your lungs to the extent that they sort of fills up with fluid so quickly that you sort of drowning in your own phlegm. And my views about human nature are that it affords infinite potential for lightness and dark. Now the volunteer couldn't see the guy he was shocking, but he could definitely hear him. Live shows were first offered in 2008. This is what's driving the world towards 10, 12 by 2050. But he does it with a kind of amoral athleticism, he does it without humility, without a lot of doubt. You're cut down before then. What makes boys boys and girls girls. And oddly enough, we got a really interesting take on the true nature of badness from this guy-. Jeff Jensen's book is The Green River Killer, A True Detective Story. That's right. The subjects range in occupation from corporation presidents to good [inaudible 00:12:29] and plumbers. Said- said, "Yes, I've thought about killing someone.". Okay, we're going off tape now. Now, as we sort of know in life, lots of things that we if they're worthwhile doing, they're not always easy. Horrified like, "Oh my God, my students are murderers?" RadioLab is supported, in part, by the National Science Foundation, and the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. The shocker would say, "Hell no I don't.". And they ask for it to be reformulated to take out the warning smell. The expectation is somebody is made to make his peace with his maker before he dies. When I stand before you, judges of Israel, in this court to accuse Adolf Eichmann. No. Humans. This was a moment when human cruelty was on trial. I mean, that's a pretty heady thing for, you know, a Jewish kid from Breslau to be hobnobbing with the Emperor and cabinet ministers. So, he plans to destroy Othello. ", And Satan is like, "Well I bet I can change his mind." The one that everybody knows, the so called baseline. Radiolab is supported by Casper. Radiolab is supported, in part, by the National Science Foundation, and by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, enhancing public understanding of science, technology in the modern world. Yeah. Just tiptoes out, just from time to time. But he organizes soldiers, he organizes whole gas units. Probably have, but in case you haven't. Next, we meet a man who scrambles our notions of good and evil: chemist Fritz Haber, who won a Nobel Prize in 1918around the same time officials in the US were calling him a war criminal. Is an absolute order. We were just enacting an old, very famous experiment that you may have heard about. Well I can use that same process-. And in this one you get 0% going all the way. Like you just did, which happens constantly. You can see this in the surveys that the men filled out after the experiments were over. Let me just get that out. But in all of these other scenarios, they don't. I'm going to resign.". I thought about grabbing a knife quickly and stabbing him in the chest repeatedly until he was dead. And he says, "Can I come over and sleep on your couch? This is Radiolab and today we're talking about Well, we're trying to think about what goes on in the mind of a bad person. Even when their sorrows almost were forgot, and on their skins is on the bark of trees, have written my life with my knife carved in Roman letters. So, the subject seemed willing to shock another human being, but as soon as you say it's an order. And this particular story, it comes from a book that David wrote. And then, he seemed fine when I said goodbye to him. "I need to kill because of that." His experiment remains one of the most famous experiments of the 20th century. Just to back up for one second. I do not stand alone. RadioLab is supported by Rocket Mortgage by Quicken Loans. Haber, it's unknown what happens for the rest of the evening, but it is a well documented fact that the very next morning-. And he wrote this graphic novel that I read about one of the most prolific serial killers in U.S. history; Gary Leon Ridgeway, the Green River Killer. He takes over leadership of this institute in Berlin, and he starts hobnobbing with a whole different level of society. 1933 comes and Hitler takes over. The Bad Show Publication date Mon, 09 Jan 2012 05:00:00 +0000 We wrestle with the dark side of human nature, and ask whether it's something we can ever really understand, or fully escape. Especially because she found out he was leaving the next day to direct more gas attacks. Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. Bald on top. He figures out a way to take a lot of air that's filled with these little nitrogen bonds clinging to each other, and pump it with big iron tank. And, uh, so does Clara. Whatever it is. Because it's like we started with this experiment that we all see as evidence of humans' latent capacity for evil. Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. Have you ever thought about killing someone? Enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. Our food source then moves into our bodies. When did he live, and what did he look and that kind of stuff? And so he says that and you're like, "Okay, yes come over now. He buried them, or left their bodies in these little clumps in the woods-. That one simple, "Why?" You walk into the room, what do you find? Um, although there's some (laughs) [crosstalk 00:02:19]. And it gets even more disturbing for my father as the conversation suddenly pivots to another victim. Radiolab. Whether it was feeding or killing or-, And he does. I don't think I ever had a fantasy that anatomically specific where I would see the part of the other person that I was going to stab or plan it like that. Is that like a green cloud? Now, of course you could find some nitrogen out in the world. These are people who are incredibly noble, they are. Would change where the shocker and the shock-ee sat. But did it, publicly, in front of her friends. Well, we'll have to discontinue the experiment then. Yeah, I carried your oxygen and you walked beside me through the lobby commenting on the decor. And it becomes Zyklon B, the killing gas of the concentration camps. She just burst my eardrums (laughs). Well, have you ever been blackmailed the way this woman was being blackmailed? Okay. So he starts experimenting. Some- some people described it as a cloud, and then, others described it as this kind of 15 foot wall kind of hugging the land. Mm-hmm (affirmative). Just give me your finger, [crosstalk 00:09:28] I'm going to-. And the way I killed her, I cared for her because I dated her for [inaudible 01:01:43]. And he said, to start, "You want to know about bad? It's about 1880. The good Iagos make you want to shower the minute you leave the theater. So, in the end where do you come down? All right, so I'm going to talk to you over this intercom, okay? These violent delights tienen fin violento. He could have never imagined that. I do have a choice. But that's just a- those are fantasies. Podcast Transcripts of Radiolab Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts What Up Holmes? And- and Iago? And as it happens, my father has very vivid memories of investigating the Carol Christensen murder. No. Yeah. Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts Kittens Kick The Giggly Blue Robot All Summer 2.7K views over 2 years ago 41:58 With the recent passing of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, there's been a lot of debate about how much power the Supreme Court should really have. When you call someone then you're kind of done with them. The thing is that I do have a new boyfriend, but my ex-boyfriend doesn't know that yet, and I'm terrified that he'll do what he says. But as far as I know, there are none for Radiolab.I think I once read a statement from Jad and/or Robert that they view the show as an audio experience, and so believe it can't be captured in a transcript. This is a continuation of an interview with Gary Leon Ridgeway. He stirs up hatred between friends, between lovers. Okay. Really? We asked, "Who do you think about killing?" I'm not going to give you what you want. Mm-hmm (affirmative). "Definitely yes.". I'm not going to go ahead with it. Walked in and asked his wife where this friend of mine was, and she got a disgusted look on her face, and said that he was up in the bedroom. And so, I went up to the bedroom and he was, you know, in a rage. I mean, I'm not suggesting one should, but I'm just saying there is a sense in which these people are prepared to do something that's very painful to them, and to someone else, because they want to promote science; well, you can see that's a good thing. And we end with the story of a man who chased one of the most prolific serial killers in US history, then got a chance to ask him the question that had haunted him for years: why? No 'cause if you couldn't afford a ticket for a play, you'd seen all the plays, in the 1500s you could always go to a public hanging. And on June 13, 2003, Gary was secretly taken out of his jail cell, and brought to a sort of very nondescript, concrete, ugly office building. "From this time forth, I never will speak a word." Yeah, I agree with that. Okay. And, you know, it's a craft, but it's a craft with consequences. You know, uh, "I'm going to kill her.". He works for a general. "Well why can't you deal with it in a normal way?". It was developed in his institute. He's part of the club and he really, really relished it. And she said, "My ex-boyfriend. This is just somebody who's performing brain surgery without anesthesia on other people. Stanley Milgram took electric shock very seriously. Said, "Yes, I've thought about killing someone?". But every time the experimenter pulled out the fourth prod And this was confirmed when the experiment was redone in 2006; total disobedience. Yes. I'm almost done, guys. Three, two, one. Here's what he did. Check out the Casper or the Wave mattress providing supportive comfort for every body type. Could you just tell me the little story that you begin your book with? And he was someone who had very big ambitions. You're going to keep giving what? He actually was very humiliated that Germany had lost, and especially humiliated over the fact that they had to pay enormous war reparations to other countries. And I heard about him from science writer, Sam Kean. So Stanley Milgram actually begins these experiments the same year that Adolf Eichmann goes on trial for Nazi war crimes. It immediately became apparent that there was going to be difficulties. This is just a tsunami of evil that passes through the play. What makes a bad person so bad that he's different from the rest of us? You mean they're looking at 20 million people going hungry? Thank you Ben. But the weird thing is that he decides not just to take down Othello, but everybody. Literally disappeared for six months, and didn't tell anyone where she was because she was terrified that he was going to kill her. No. A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of. What kind of tech company does the world need today? At high temperature. A liquid that has captured the nitrogen right out of the air. Is that like a- like a green cloud? I- horrified is- I was- I was pretty stunned. Because, ultimately, the play offers up a reason for his nastiness. And then Othello goes and kills his own wife, smothering hew with a pillow. We realize this is hard work, but what you are doing is for the good of Germany. "Oh, you tell me sir, yes sir, no sir, three bags full, sir.". And why I cared for her because I dated her before, but this day didn't turn out right. Well,the experiment requires that you continue. So, you don't know. Hi, this is Lauren from Winnipeg. This is just somebody who's performing brain surgery without anesthesia on other people. We just need a whole lot more of one simple element. And everyone thought, "Well, we know the solution.". With higher and higher voltage. That allows an individual to act inhumanely? And it's this defense. And he believed it. Does everybody, at some point, have something dark in them that just tiptoes out, from time to time? It's absolutely essential. WNYC is America's most listened-to public radio station and the producer of award-winning programs and podcasts like Radiolab, On the Media, and The Brian Lehrer Show. The- the leaves would just sort of shrivel and the grass was turning to the color of metal. He was t- very aggressive. Continue using the last switch on the board, please. At this point, David's moved onto a new university and he's teaching an introductory psychology class. Accuracy and availability may vary. And if they still were resisting or struggling, they'd get proud number three. That's radio producer Ben Walker. 35.3M . Cruelty, violence, badness. He even schemes against his own wife. Wow. He says, "Well, we can drive those enemy soldiers out of trenches with gas. Then you left some space at the bottom for them to elaborate if they said, "Yes. And I was just astonished-. He knew about it. And we didn't really come to any kind of agreement with the Haber thing. Well, we're trying to think about what goes on in the mind of a bad person. You know, what does he say? And give up the few details that they really needed to link him, certifiably, to all these crimes. Maria Matasar-Padilla is our managing director. In that why, in that one simple why that he asked Gary, there was a lot of questions he was asking. With help from Adam Cole, Rachel James, and Matt [Kielty 01:07:25]. That's one of the things that we need to know. Many of them after they were murdered. She was a- I knew she had a daughter in the last [crosstalk 01:01:03]. But if you could somehow get a real Iago in the room, and subject that person to questioning, and really get them to sort of fess up as to why they did it, would that make a difference? These little nitrogen atoms will fiercely hold together, and it's almost impossible to pry them apart. "Have you ever thought about killing someone?" I mean, I'm going to record it here too. And so, uh, when I went to the party, the party was already in full swing when I got there. Nothing to be ashamed of. It is- it is arguably the most significant scientific breakthrough of them all. People like director Sam Mendez, musicians Jean Batiste, and Wynton Marsalis, Call Your Girlfriends [inaudible 00:27:12], and our very own Alec Baldwin. In 1962 Stanley Milgram shocked the world with his study on obedience. Sep 21, 2018 . He would give all his baddies at least one moment where they could be understood. But in a famous incident, one of England's leading scientists refuses to shake his hand. A lot of them are really positive even though they've just been told that they were duped. I'll give you bad. So, I'm going to talk to you over this intercom, okay? "This was exactly what was in my mind. I have a choice, I'm not going to go ahead with it. Do we know? Our- our friend. So, there's a way in which it touch a spark of humanity. "When I picked them up I was going to kill them." With all of the black-and-white moralizing in our world today, we decided to bring back an old show about the little bit of bad that's in all of us.and the little bit of really, really bad that's in some of us. Okay, so what happened to David that night with his friend got him really curious about murder, and badness, and all these things we're thinking about. (laughs). That's my thing and that's where I'm going to stand on it. And you find yourself in a situation where you've got to do something that's hard. That is true. He could have never imagined that. He gets promoted to the rank of captain-. My father's trying to, like, reach out to him. A liquid. You know, he does it without humility, without- without a lot of doubt. 65%-, to shock their fellow citizens over and over again-. No reason. He recruited a bunch of subjects. (beep) God. It is a fair question to ask what are the conditions under which you or me or any of us could do-. Thanks. We, as onlookers to this study, we have this kind of godlike sort of vision of like, "Well, of course, what they're doing is wrong." You mean they're looking at 20 million people hungry? And one evening, they were throwing a party and invited me over. And that's what Shakespeare did in all of his plays. Well, you know, you can see that's a good thing. So, during World War I Haber's institute had developed a formulation of, um, insect killing gas called zyklon. ", Um, but Haber just kind of ignored her and-, He actually threw a dinner party in celebration-. He walked out of the room and just started weeping. But as the play goes on, you begin to think that maybe that's just another lie. Accuracy and availability may vary. But he is a large, very strong man with a black belt in karate. New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. ", He actually threw a dinner party in celebration-. For information about Sloan, at www.sloan.org. Yes, this is one of the things that sparked my interest in the topic of murder. And then, Othello goes and kills his own wife, smothering her with a pillow. Our staff includes Simon Adler, Maggie Bartholomew, Becca Bressler, Rachael Cusick, David Gebel, Ethel Hepti, Tracy Hunt, Matt Kielty, the lovely Robert Krulwich, Annie McEwen, Latif Nassar, Malissa O'Donnell, Adrian Wack, Pat Walters, and Molly Webster. In that moment, my father, he stands up and he says. And they would circle yes or no. And actually this wasn't just a German thing, a lot of people were beginning to worry that with about a billion and a half people on the planet, at that point, that maybe we were maxing out, that the earth couldn't support this many people. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. And this is the difference between Kaiser Wilhelm and of course Hitler's Germany. The expectation is somebody is made to make his peace with his maker before he dies; that's what you do. And they're both secularized Jews. In fact, his chemist had given this particular pesticide a smell. More energy than seemed, like, possible to make. Prosecution, [crosstalk 00:12:03] the Attorney General. My dad said, "I don't want to talk about it." You're telling us all this. Haber finds himself in a little town in Belgium called-. And what happens is that your elbowing the nitrogen apart from itself, and then forcing it to bond with the hydrogen in a new way. David had always known this guy to be pretty mild mannered. Hmm. And then, it was several hours later in the middle of the night that I got the call. This is Radiolab and today talking about? And Haber has an idea. It's 0924 hours on June 17th, year 2003. Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. No one has ever said about a sex tape that I've ever, so no. I'm gonna-. He is- he wants to feed- he wants to feed Germany. But it's suspected that it could be upwards of 75. You literally get a drip, drip, drip, of ammonia. Dan doesn't think so. And he was wearing a fur coat-. With help from Shima Oliaee, Carter Hodge, and Lisa Yeger. I'm not going to help restore the sense that there is a moral order to the world and a moral norm. It is, arguably, the most significant scientific breakthrough of them all. She says, "What happened today?" That he asked Gary, there was a lot of questions he was asking. To find page after page of yeses. Why did you inflict on this suffering on them, on us? They arrest Gary Le- Leon Ridgeway. After all he knows what he can stand. ", In Titus Andronicus, there's a character by the name of Aaron the Moor-, And there's a moment in the play where Aaron gets up on stage, looks at the audience and says, "Let me just tell you the kinds of things I've been up to recently.". He has a podcast. And in the other room, there was a guy, who he called the learner, who was supposed to have memorized some words. The leaves would just sort of shrivel, and the grass was turning to the color of metal. And while you're doing that, just give me your finger. It is still trotted out to explain everything from hazing to war crimes. 'S driving the world to have anything to do something that 's hard for [ inaudible ]. Supported by Rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans very famous experiment that we all see evidence. 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